Carcano Bayonet
Bayonet Serial Number reference?
OK, so i just recently started collecting knives, and came across an italian mannlicher-carcano bayonet Model 1891, and was wondering where i could look up the serial number to get an estimate on the date that it may have been used, or if u could just tell me from some of the markings i have, and show me where u got it, that would be awesome as well =D
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GH 647
Any info is welcome and appreciated!
Awesome find!
Unfortunately looking up serial numbers is impossible.
The records just do not exist any longer.
A long time collector, like the guy below MIGHT know if it was a WWI or WWII issue, probably a WWII issue -- mid 1940's.
It might not even been a soldier's issue but a German people's militia, Volkssturm, issue.
The Rifle Model 1891 Mannlicher-Carcano Infantry bayonet was issued with the
rifle, the Model 1891 Mannlicher-Carcano.
Although this rifle is often called "Mannlicher-Carcano" especially in US
parlance, that name was never official, as little as the even less correct
moniker "Mauser-Parravicino." Its official designation in Italian is simply Mod.
'91 ("il novantuno"). The name Mannlicher-Carcano is also misleading because the
rifle's bolt action was based on a German Mauser-style bolt action, not the
Austrian Mannlicher-style. The taxonomically misleading Mannlicher designation
comes from the fact that the rifle depends for proper usage upon a magazine
system using en bloc charger clips developed and patented by Ferdinand
Mannlicher, but the actual and superior variant used in the Carcano is derived
from the later non-Mannlicher German Mod. 1888 commission rifle.
A short rifle variant in carbine length called the M91/38 was introduced in
1938, jointly with a new 7.35x51mm cartridge. The new caliber, however, never
replaced the old one, and in 1940, production switched back to the 6.5x52mm
cartridge. In 1941, the military reverted to a long-barrelled infantry rifle
again (slightly shorter than the original M91), the M91/41. Military surplus
Carcano ammunition is no longer readily available, but civilian loadings are
offered by Hornady, Norma and Prvi Partizan.
Sniper versions never existed, but in World War I, a few rifles were fitted with
telescopes (World War II scoped rifles are prototypes only). A number of
Moschetti M91/38 TS (special troops' carbines) were chambered for the larger
caliber German 7.92x57mm Mauser ammunition. The reasons for this conversion are
still not clear; one batch was already converted in World War II (around 1941),
but never saw troop service, while most were converted after 1945, and were
exported to Egypt, where they served as drill and training carbines. The
occasional model designation "Model 1943 (M43)" is wrong, and was never applied
to either 8 mm gun.
German forces captured large quantities of Carcano rifles after Italy's
capitulation in September 1943. It was the most commonly issued rifle to the
German people's militia Volkssturm units in late 1944 and 1945.
This info is from Richard Abbenbroek AKA The Bayo-Hunter....
http://www.bayo-hunter.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bayonetcollecting/message/11682
BLADE LENGTH IS 11 3/4" AND IT IS 7/8" WIDE. OVERALL LENGTH IS 16 1/4".
Excellent Photo
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/model-1891-italian-bayonet-mannlicher-carcano
The carbine variant employed a permanently-attached folding bayonet
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